This article is part of a series of articles on the Date of major episodes from the Indian History. The primary source of information for the article is the talk organised by the Srijan Foundation at the Press Club of India. Sh. Nilesh Nilkanth Oak presented the talk on the topic- Dating of Mahabharat and Ramayana.

For the first article, please go to:

The second article which discusses scientific discoveries and falsifying evidence can be read here:

To read about different claims on the dates of Mahabharat and Ramayana, please go to:

For the fourth article on astronomical references and AV observation, click here:

The fifth article discusses the precession of equinoxes while ecplaining the AV observation and the date of Mahabharat:

Let us now look at the second example which is the Ramayana.

Very similar!


Ramayana has more than 500 astronomy observations. And like we did previously, we can split them into two categories. This category is ‘near earth phenomena’ which repeats frequently; the position of moons, eclipses, planetary positions and so on.

And the other side is driven by the phenomenon known as ‘the precession of equinoxes’.

‘Yudh Kanda’ of Ramayana. As different from the Mahabharat, here the word used is ‘Kanda’ instead of ‘Parva’. Hanuman and party have found Sita. She is in Lanka, Ravanna’s kingdom. They came to Kishkindha and in a hurry everybody left for Lanka.

Everybody is walking towards Lanka in order to rescue Sita and during this time, Laxman is describing the various things and patterns in the sky. It is quite obvious that they are taking the help of various stars, to make sure that they are traveling in the right direction at night and so on. And he describes the pole star of Ramayana times.



Translation: Great sages are making Parikrama around the fixed/settled Brahmarashi/Abhijit, the pole star. So he is describing the pole star of Ramayana times but you are experts now, you know now when the Brahmarashi was the pole

So he is describing the pole star of Ramayana times but we are experts now, we know now when the Brahmarashi was the pole star, when was it? 13000 years ago, around until 12000 BC. We can do the exact maps, to be more precise and find out the closest that the NCP was to the star Brahmarashi was in 12048 BC. We can go plus minus 1000 years or 2000 years to be on the safe side.

So that gives us the boundary 10000 BC and never after that. And again we put our scientific hat. We have the description, we have empirical proof and now we bring it all together. Testing, empirical, various pole stars that we have seen in the circle. Everybody knows it is the prediction for Brahmarashi, we can find out 12000 BC.

So if you accept this reference, if you put this together, we can say that Ramayana did not happen even a day late than 10000 BC. Again where is my skeptic? The skeptic side says,”OK, just one reference. Ya, a little bit of Brahmarashi. I don’t necessarily understand this thing, any other?” Ramayana has seven different Kands. This is a quick explanation from the Yudh Kand.

We can go through 3 other references from three different other Kands of Ramayana.

In Aranya Kand, it’s the time of Laxman, Ram, and Sita in Panchvati and it’s the time of Hemant season. Hemant season would be over with the winter solstice and Laxman is describing the sky again. Laxman says,”During this Hemant Ritu, Sun is setting on the western horizon near ‘nakshatra pushya’.”

If in our times, you go out tonight and you would be able to see. What you will find is Sun sets around “Purva Shada Utra shada Shravan.” Laxman is saying its set’s around Pushya. Again use the precession of equinoxes and you can find out exact what that happen. The timing comes 11500 BC to 17500 BC.

In our times, in the month of Ashwin, when we celebrate the Dussehra. The Dussehra time comes in Sharad Ritu after the rainy season. In Ramayana times it is described as a time of Vasant Ritu, like our Holi.

“This is the Vasant Ritu and month of Ashwin is passing away how are we going to find out Sita?” Angad is saying to his party. That is from another Kand, Sunderkand.

And, there is one another description of Chaitra.  When Ram was born, the Indian month was Chaitra, April is an English month. Chaitra, Shukla, Navami!

In our times it appears in Vasant Ritu, the second part of Vasant Ritu. This is a very auspicious month, Chaitra, it is said in Ramayana, when the forests are blooming with flowers that can happen in Chaitra, early chaitya. Well!  If Ramayana has to happen in our times, we are definitely sure it will not happen in our time.

If you can go back 2000 years that’s the early part of Vasant, you know it definitely did not happen in that time. So, if you go back and use precession of equinoxes and you have to find another time, when the forests would be blooming with flowers and you have to go to all beginning of Hemant Ritu or Sharad Ritu , when again forest, our Dussehra season, are blooming with flowers.

Four references we quicly saw and all of them refer to 10000 BC. It is way past 4000 years, 5000 years 6000 years.

As observed with astronomical observations the dates of Mahabharat and Ramayana are scientific and the propositions of Sh. Nilesh Oak Ji are ready for critical analysis. As always for the sake of the progress of science, please analyze and question the claims. Until then, the dates stand strong.